Discussion in 'General' started by Mr.P, Aug 3, 2016.
Ameen barak Allahu feek akhi al aziz !
I can understand and appreciate your point, but I have seen the evidence and what @Habz786 says is true... not only me but a few others too who are choosing to remain quiet and seeing what happens in the Oud market, I can't blame them. @Habz786 raised this so I will let him reply to you if he thinks it would be constructive.
I suppose this description is also nothing to do with a post made on this forum... https://ensaroud.com/product/archipelago/434
@koolaid79... why do you have one rule for Gaharu and another here? Many things have been said on Gaharu that are clearly aimed at people on here and not one word out of you. Rather I noticed you "liked" some of those posts. Also, as @Habz786 asked, why is Gaharu registration closed? He would be happy to go over there and speak to the vendor concerned in public, just as the vendor has been so public in his pronouncements. But I do agree that if an allegation is made, then proof or the details should be provided, but I understand why @Habz786 has chosen to remain quiet.
@koolaid79 if you are a man who is just and have courage then why dont you question injustice on both sides rather than just on here? I've made my position clear if im allowed to join Gaharu which i don't see why not (im still waiting for @bhanny who is a moderator to confirm why i cant join) then i will openly discuss this or if the vendor joins here, its pretty much as simple as that. These arent accusations as i have the 2 oils right next to me and so do others....whether they choose to speak out is up to them.
Are you sure about the integrity of the distiller who sent you the sample for comparison assuming it is the same exact oil? I mean why would this distiller do that in the first place? Could be some sort of contract breakage between him and the accused vendor trying to use what was left and had from the costumed distillation of the vendor? The probability of these Facebook and WhatsUp distillers known for short time being honest is probably less than of a vendor who’s been trusted for years; they are not angels after all.
@Ammar i dont have a sample but larger ammounts, its a long story and lets hope i get the chance to discuss it openly here or there. Its the exact same oil i would like to think i trust my nose but others who are well trained have agreed as i wanted to be on the safe side.
OK sounds reasonable...
@Oudiferus the answer to your question is yes
Salaams and greeting to all,
What a fantastic thread for new consumers to come across. I have just stepped in to the Oud market aspiring to make my first real purchase of 3gr.
Thanks to this forum, now I have across at least 10 other vendors.
Post 148 by AU came across straight from the heart, it was beautiful. I agree maybe we ought to do serious honest reviews of products and determine their correct price.
As indicated above, I am completely new to the Oud experience, having only tried the samples from one particular vendor, I have to say that my overall experience was one of disappointment and I felt the reviews in the majority of cases were over hyped with customers using terms like “fecalicous” in order to describe something that smells like poo – but excuse my ignorance, I am thinking, really!? You have to pay your hard earned money to smell like that?
I personally want to use Oud to smell nice when I go to the masjid. I do not want smell like an animal or poo when standing before my creator.
So to give an example there was one sample which prices for $1500, but it did absolutely nothing for me.
But the one that I really liked was (Malaysian Floral), but the price – if it is to last me a year would amount to about a £fiver a day/per swipe? I do not understand why that is; is it because it is a collectable item or prestige?
If someone could recommend a similar scent from a different vendor but in the reasonable price bracket, I would be interested.
So this vendor Mashallah, I am lead to believe has Oud in a reasonably priced brackets with similar core scents of Musk, Fruit, Camphor, Incense, available in the high end which is about five times the price, so as a prospective buyer, I am thinking, can that be 5 times better - silage, lasting, quality etc.
From my general observations I see that some of the customers having spent a staggering amount (perhaps impulse purchases) are now trying to re-sell everything on ebay and other forums but not attracting much interest, I could be mistaken but if that is the case, that would be very sad indeed.
Once again thank you all for your input, I have lots of reading and sampling before making my first significant purchase.
Welcome to Ouddict. You are definitely in the right place if you like to ask questions and think carefully before you buy.
I get what you are saying. I just want to give you some advice as you state you are new to the oud market and experience. Obviously we were all in your shoes once as well.
Oud oil is a very interesting substance to which your affinity and liking develops over time. I cannot tell you how many times I have tried an oil which initially put me off. As my experience grew, many if not all of the oils I did not care for initially, became some of my favorites. This is especially true of the Hindi oils which are known for their 'barnyard' scent.
The whole point is that oud is not, IMO, like any other fragrance and scent which you either instantly like or not like. You will see what I mean as your experience grows.
Having said that, obviously you do not want to purchase an oil which just smells bad to you right off the bat.
I do not know which vendor(s) you are referring to, but if you can provide some specifics, I would be happy to give some suggestions.
Welcome to Ouddict.
I advised a couple people that were new to oud by telling them not to fall in love with oud because it is an expensive hobby.
I also posted before that in my opinion all oud is expensive, even $50/3ml.
$50 can buy a lot of food to feed my family.
For those willing to accept the cost of oud, you embark upon a journey of discovery, you will find oils that you like, and some that you don't. Your acquired taste will change and your smelling ability will become more developed. You will start to understand how some oils can be of good quality, and the reason why they cost more. You have to be patient because the journey is measured in years. You are off to a good start because you are here in the Forum. Try to read through some older posts to gain more knowledge. You might have to sift through posts that are not very oudcentric, but with dilligence, you will find useful information.
I cannot definitively say what is reasonable, but there are examples from connoisseurs in this very thread touching on what price they feel is reasonable for daily use and special occasions.
I can appreciate this can be subjective, however when I read opinions from vendors/oudicts and there appears to be a general consensus that the prices tagged by certain vendors are over inflated, what else is a lay customer supposed to think?
For daily use I am prepared to spend up to £500
@al qaswa i think its wise to start with samples and then make up your mind in regards to quality/price. Do have a look at the vendors area there are a variety of well known vendors there and some who aren't like Feel Oud, Ensar Oud, Agar Aura and others.
I agree with Habz, trying samples first is the best way to go. Most sellers are aware of that now, and most offer samples/sample packs.
I would say that the pricing of Oud falls into 3 categories. Economy, Semi-Luxury, and Luxury.
Most of us fall under the first two categories, the Luxury category is reserved for those who have extra cash.
What do you mean by that?
Sorry if its unclear i thought its pretty self explanatory. We have a vendors area where vendors connect with customers. I named a few of the vendors who arent on there so new members are aware of them.
Smell like poe ? Really ? I knew harder barn haters who cannot swype other than barnest hindis
Welcome @al qaswa...
What is Malaysian Floral? It seems that I'm the only one who doesn't know about this oil??
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