Wood Grading

Discussion in 'Oud Wood' started by Andrew Salkin, Sep 20, 2019.

  1. Andrew Salkin

    Andrew Salkin it's aboud time!

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    Been learning more and more and seeing more vendors websites, IGs, etc.

    Seen words like Queen, King, Baby King, Underwater (imagine sinking means same thing), semi-sinking, incense grade, crayon, collection grade?

    Do different countries have different grading systems? Is the below range about right?

    C
    B
    A
    AA
    AAA
    Super
    Double Super
    Triple Super
    Queen
    Baby King
    King
    Half-Sinking
    Sinking
    Fast Sinking
     
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  2. Joe King

    Joe King AttitOud

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    I think that is correct generally, although some suppliers may have differing idea's. Also my understanding is underwater is supposed to mean the tree was found submerged, and I am not sure if this is being applied correctly. There is also soil wood which is from trees that have been found beneath the ground.
    edit: it should be noted that grade does not necessarily equate to the quality of smell.
     
  3. Mr.P

    Mr.P Evoloudtionary Bioudlogist

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    I didn’t realize all those fancy grades were still not sinking quality. Somehow I thought king and super king would sink!

    the grading system is comical. The whole industry - it’s like people have been exaggerating and hyping their wares for centuries and ever more self-aggrandizing labels are needed.

    it’s like Spinal Tap’s amplifiers going up to 11...

    can we add “rainbow unicorn” and “super ultra”??
     
  4. Joe King

    Joe King AttitOud

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    Yes indeed the industry is self regulated and mostly relies on vendors honesty. Grading is supposed to relate to the amount of resination of the wood, high resination does not always mean sinking.
    edit. I did have an amplifier that went to 11 but the smoke got out ...
     
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  5. Alkhadra

    Alkhadra "Master Kafeel" Resident Artisan

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    Hey there! I'd list it more like this:

    C
    B
    AB
    A
    Super
    Double Super
    Triple Super (Not an actual grade, in the Malay/Indonesia region, large, chunkier pieces of double super are called triple super)
    Half-sinking
    Sinking
    Fast Sinking
    Then afterwards comes all the king stuff. Baby king, king, blah blah.

    But every place has their own grading scheme, what I call super others call triple super, what you call C others call A.

    The grading system that follows the C, B, A, AA, AAA, and so on is an entirely different one.

    To make matters worse, go to Cambodia, they call their AB grade "Triple King Super". lol :Whistling:

    As for the rest of the terms you've mentioned. crayon, collection grade, incense grade, those can be considered marketing terms. Vendors can create their own criteria for a certain quality of wood and give it a name so that customers can be familiar with what that vendor is offering.

    Semi-sinking is basically half-sinking.
    Underwater means the Oud doesn't float if you put it in water...ie, sinking. In the gulf region, Sinking grade is called Underwater.

    Queen grade is a difficult one though, and I'm not about to invade my Oud and start checking its gender either. That's considered a form of harassment in these parts. :Roflmao:
     
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  6. Andrew Salkin

    Andrew Salkin it's aboud time!

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    Is it just me or are smaller pieces actually preferable in the lower grades? I find that bigger chunks of gotten of "Super" or "Double Super" are just disappointing because upon cutting open, the center is usually devoid of any resin...

    I'm about to buy a package of wood from one of these isntagram sellers - probably agarwoodvietnam or the like - I see them post all the time really great looking wood at epicly low prices. I'll be the guinea pig :)
     
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