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Regulatory Issues and IFRA

Discussion in 'Synthetics vs Natural Products' started by Ouddict, Nov 8, 2017.

  1. Ouddict

    Ouddict Forum Co-Founder & Tech Support

    IFRA has compiled a list of prohibitive naturally aromatic materials that in effect, minimise the ability of natural perfumers to create a wide range of perfumes. This is the claim. Wondering how true this is?
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  2. Alexander Oudh

    Alexander Oudh Oud Fanatic

    Honestly, I do not see how this can be true unless the source of the natural fragrances are deemed protected under CBD, CITES, CMS, Ramsar or the World Heritage Convention.

    IFRA has rules for more than just perfumer's. Their main objective is to determine the safety of fragrant petrochemicals produced for consumer goods. The IFRA also wouldn't outright ban a fragrance compound unless one of its Ordinary Member Organizations did so first.

    Hope this helps
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  3. Ouddict

    Ouddict Forum Co-Founder & Tech Support

    I’m referring to the extensive debate that has been conducted regarding the IFRA regulations. Many natural perfumers feel that they unfairly encroach on their options. I think Anya McCoys Natural Perfumery Guild website has a lot of interesting information on this.
  4. Ouddict

    Ouddict Forum Co-Founder & Tech Support

  5. Mellifluence

    Mellifluence Oud Fan

    Some of the users on Basenotes make some very good points, they are restricting some natural materials without good reason and allowing some very unpleasant chemicals to still be used. I have many allergies to synthetic aroma compounds and very rarely have an allergic response to a natural essential oil or absolute.
    This may also fit in with Agenda 24 which is a slow destruction of all natural medicine, i remember reading about this a long time ago and it is still slowly working it's way into regulations.
    It is also part of the ultra sensitive EU nanny laws which are treating us more like children all the time, restricting more of what we say and do assuming all people are stupid, unfortunately many are but that shouldn't tar everyone.
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  6. Rai Munir

    Rai Munir Musk Man

    Very right, respected Abdullah. I couldn't ever understand this IFRA mania that has always been referred to for authentication of what is acknowledged authentic universally. Anyway, the multinational monsters are always there to fabricate to finagle. Anyway, we have to live with this IFRA-isms and any forum-istic cults.

    Synthetic aroma causes a sore throat whenever I smell some perfume. No exception.
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  7. Mellifluence

    Mellifluence Oud Fan

    I agree, it serves multinational companies interest and not the citizens, so when a regulation is made, their chemicals sell more, i think they want to eliminate competition from small companies, especially natural ones.
    When those companies gain so much money and power a huge conflict of interest occurs that is going unchecked, their greed affects the health of all citizens. I remember Greenpeace analyzed many synthetic perfumes and found so many contained hormone altering chemicals that have a negative effect on health.
    When natural ingredients are used, the side effects are generally beneficial rather than having any negative impacts on the body.
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  8. F4R1d0uX

    F4R1d0uX Resident Artisan

    Yes I agree, If I remember well, they analysed white musk from "the body shop" :confused: it hurts ...
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  9. Mellifluence

    Mellifluence Oud Fan

    Here is a list of the essential oils and absolutes that are prohibited or restricted if anyone is interested:


    Quite a few of the oils i love and use are on the banned list, i use Liquidamber orientalis raw on the skin and have never had any issues.
    I understand juniper oxidises very quickly making it potentially carcinogenic if it is aged, but not likely as much as denatured alcohol which is used profusely and has some very unpleasant chemicals in there.

    "Denatured alcohol is ethanol with other additives, which makes it unfavorable for drink. This is also known as methylated spirits because earlier, the main additive for this was methanol, which is about 10%. Other than methanol, other additives like isopropyl alcohol, acetone, methyl ethyl ketone, methyl isobutyl ketone, and denatonium are also added to make denatured alcohol. Addition of these extra molecules doesn’t affect the chemical nature of the ethanol but makes it highly poisonous."

    This is quoted from https://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-isopropyl-alcohol-and-vs-denatured-alcohol/
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  10. Woodland Note

    Woodland Note Moderator Staff Member

    This list of the banned oils seems a bit ridiculous to me... Tea? I drink it every day. Horseradish? I eat it frequently. :)
    If those cause an allergic reaction in some small percentage of people, it should be mentioned in the ingredient list of the product... But banning it all from the use in the perfume industry? Cmon... With this logic they can ban almost everything. :)
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  11. Ouddict

    Ouddict Forum Co-Founder & Tech Support

    I believe it’s to protect the French perfumery industry. It’s not for “wholesome” reasons.
  12. Mustafa

    Mustafa Oud Fan

    Very informative chat thanks. I will restrict myself from going into a tangent. But we have seen this over and over again in all big industries. These so call watch dogs eventually become slaves of their corporate masters.
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