alex1971

Oud Beginner
Hi all there
Is there any study about smoke of burning Oud wood and It's relation on breath and lungs problems?can burning agarwood cause any illness in lungs?I read an article about It and now I am scared
I have cough and flegma for last few days,and now thinking a lot if that could be any chance being this cough and mucus triggered by agarwood smoke as I burn everyday when I go to Sleep in small room
This is article I read
https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=172365
I love burn agarwood but if give me a breathing or lungs problems I will be retained just to use oils only and burn only in open spaces
Best wishes to all.
Alex
 
Hi all there
Is there any study about smoke of burning Oud wood and It's relation on breath and lungs problems?can burning agarwood cause any illness in lungs?I read an article about It and now I am scared
I have cough and flegma for last few days,and now thinking a lot if that could be any chance being this cough and mucus triggered by agarwood smoke as I burn everyday when I go to Sleep in small room
This is article I read
https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=172365
I love burn agarwood but if give me a breathing or lungs problems I will be retained just to use oils only and burn only in open spaces
Best wishes to all.
Alex
For the most part, prudent use when burning is the healthy choice. If you already have an existing lung condition, then don’t burn, if you’re recovering from a temporary condition such as a chest cold, give yourself time to heal before burning, or burn very little and don’t inhale the stream of smoke, or just gently heat. (That’s where I’m at right now, I had a chest cold two weeks ago, and the smoke does irritate my lungs)
When you are at a healthy state, just be mindful not to overdo it.

Another thing to consider is what you are burning. If straight agarwood, some regions or certain batches of chips may have more potential for irritation than others. With incense, some mixtures may contain ingredients that can be more irritating than others. I use personal observations to determine which ones irritate me more.

Eventually I may have to space my burnings further apart.

And lastly....not to burn at all:eek::eek:
I hope not:( because I love my agarwoods:Inlove:
 

Rai Munir

Musk Man
Oud burning in Arab

Kodo session in Japan

Incense stick burning in India

If it were damaging, it would not have been an integral part of sacred rituals.
 

ander.s

Oud Beginner
For the most part, prudent use when burning is the healthy choice. If you already have an existing lung condition, then don’t burn, if you’re recovering from a temporary condition such as a chest cold, give yourself time to heal before burning, or burn very little and don’t inhale the stream of smoke, or just gently heat. (That’s where I’m at right now, I had a chest cold two weeks ago, and the smoke does irritate my lungs)
When you are at a healthy state, just be mindful not to overdo it.

Another thing to consider is what you are burning. If straight agarwood, some regions or certain batches of chips may have more potential for irritation than others. With incense, some mixtures may contain ingredients that can be more irritating than others. I use personal observations to determine which ones irritate me more.

I think the article is scientifically correct.
But this deserves to be viewed in context as well.

Of course, small room and multiple incense sticks per day, is not the best combination. But I believe the more harmful substances come from the smoke, the particles within and other pollutants. I am with Oudamberlove, in that if you gently heat agarwood the risk should be much lower. Comparable that with cigarette smoking, the more harmful substances are the secondary noxes and (mostly) not the nicotine itself.

Kodo heating, i.e. releasing the oils gently from the wood, should be more in the vicinity of heating an essential oil within small amount of water over a tealight.

I also agree with what Martin and Rai Munir said before.

However with people with respiratory conditions, acute (Bronchitis, Pneumonia ...) or chronic (Asthma, COPD ...) things are a little different. In this case I would stay away from burning wood and/or incense, or at least consult a physician, preferrably a lung specialist.

Other than that I think prudent use combined with common sense should be the way to go.
 
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alcolado glacial

True Ouddict
I think we are underestimating the issue gravely, get it? lol

Agarwood has a tendency to stick to things, see the effect of sniffing on some kyara powder and see how long you still can smell it on your nosetrills. imagine what it does to your lungs. thank god the body has a wonderfull way of making itself healthy again. all you have to do is give a few days between smoking sessions.
In other news heating up aluminium foil is known to cause alzheimer disease.
now i must go , got another party to poop on.:Sneaky::Poop::Poop::Poop:
 

Hamza H

Resident Artisan
I think we are underestimating the issue gravely, get it? lol

Agarwood has a tendency to stick to things, see the effect of sniffing on some kyara powder and see how long you still can smell it on your nosetrills. imagine what it does to your lungs. thank god the body has a wonderfull way of making itself healthy again. all you have to do is give a few days between smoking sessions.
In other news heating up aluminium foil is known to cause alzheimer disease.
now i must go , got another party to poop on.:Sneaky::Poop::Poop::Poop:

Do you have any proof for the last one? I use aluminium foil quite a lot.
 

alcolado glacial

True Ouddict
I read it alongtime ago, they mentioned it also causing damage in deoderant, but no i can't reference it for you , a google search may help? I also heat with alu so i'm looking for an alternative.
 

alcolado glacial

True Ouddict
:Cry::Cry::Cry:

Dearest Alcolado, please say you were kidding. If not, even then I can't bear wires, nails, screws, etc. ;). I mean an electric heater.
lol I am sorry to say Dearest Ray i was telling the thruth, and i do feel a bit anxious when i use foil, but what can you do. life is full of poisons some wanted and some not;) I think mica is the safest bet.
 

Mr.P

oud<3er
Heating aluminum foil does not cause Alzheimer’s. I think this was settled a while ago... you’d have to have a damaged blood-brain barrier I think.
 

alcolado glacial

True Ouddict
i just looked up some articles and i'm sorry folks, it is outdated info that i provided they have been studien for 40 years and, now they say Current research provides no convincing evidence that exposure to trace elements of aluminum is connected to the development of dementia.

https://alzheimer.ca/en/Home/About-dementia/Alzheimer-s-disease/Risk-factors/Aluminum

So my dearest Ray forget the bolts and nuts and do use your foil.:Thumbsup:
 

jensz

Administrator
Staff member
Hey @alex1971 , I hesitated to use wood at all because I was concerned about inhaling smoke, which I find really irritating to my throat, and which I had concerns would harm my lungs. I also recall an anecdote from a member here about how he used wood to excess (causing excess smoke) and it either gave him some respiratory issue or worsened an existing respiratory issue, so he had to take a break from wood to recover. I think he was really over-exposing himself.

Anyway, I was ignoring wood because of concern over smoke. But a couple wonderful members introduced me to heating (not burning) wood, and thus avoiding the smoke while delighting in the fragrance of the heated wood and resin (and occasionally some woods do give off a gentle waft of smoke). I've used this electric heater and have been really happy with it:
https://www.mermadearts.com/p/incense-accessories/electric-incense-heater-golden-lotus

It's the only heating method I've used so have no comparison, but given your concerns and the irritation you're experiencing, it might be worth a try!
 
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Mr.P

oud<3er
I have moved away from combustion as well. Heating the chips has many of the qualities of burned wood, but occasionally a good burn is just a thing of beauty!

The subitism type heaters are essentially “vaping” oud... much less harmful than combustion for sure but probably not without risks - at least the way I use my subitism! I tend to run it pretty hot. I would imagine that very gentle heating is for all intents and purposes harmless.
 

alex1971

Oud Beginner
Thanks to all for all the recommendations , I am now a few days not burning Oud, until I get better , I still have cough and mucus, and burning oud was like worsening my symptoms,and have a painful throat now from so much coughing last days, hope get completely recovered in a few days as can not wait til burn oud again
I use both charcoal and electric subitims heater, but much more the electric one I use
I also burn Bakhhoor
Alex Escobar
 

Mr.P

oud<3er
For me personally, combusted oud has not caused irritation, but I tend to burn smaller chips than most.
 

Rai Munir

Musk Man
i just looked up some articles and i'm sorry folks, it is outdated info that i provided they have been studien for 40 years and, now they say Current research provides no convincing evidence that exposure to trace elements of aluminum is connected to the development of dementia.

https://alzheimer.ca/en/Home/About-dementia/Alzheimer-s-disease/Risk-factors/Aluminum

So my dearest Ray forget the bolts and nuts and do use your foil.:Thumbsup:
I am going to sue you:Devilish:, happily.
 

alcolado glacial

True Ouddict
great to have you back my friend, i promise i was not looking for trouble, but it is remarks like these that makes me enjoy ouddict the most especially if they come from you. :p :Laugh:
 
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