Hahaha.@Nikhil - great plain speak. The bard has spoken again
And regarding high prices I have some valid questions as well. And I am being totally reasonable. And this is also directed to thes so called Investors turned anti-parties:
1. How do you breakdown the artisanal Oud pricing ?
2. Have you spent enough to bypass Oud lobbies and CITES certificates for Export/Import ?
3. Why do 150 and 1000 USD Ouds smell same ? Btw, you just cannot question my sense of smell or for that matter anyone's here. They may not be able to break it down but most members have come here after their tryst with the world of Niche.
4. You guys take Paypal ? So no question of taxes etc. You save a lot.
5. The presentation is a basic glass bottle with a basic plastic stick. No money spent on presentation at all. At similar prices you can get niche perfumes with gold dust lol.
6. We have never questioned you guys. Believed in what you had to offer. Fought with other vendors for you. Quit forums. We have been barred. But we still support you in every way possible. So, have you guys ever given a thought what we go through in our lives to achieve the funds or how we compromise on family time just to participate in these useless online oxfordian debates ? Ponder please.
We are all as flawed as you vendors are. We are as big an opportunists as you guys are. We have ignored mistakes on both forums like you have. And we have moved on. Now, for one last time. Get an equilibrium. Settle your god damn scores and get back to making good Oud.
None of my questions need to be answered. They may be completely baseless. The ultimate thing is to let you know.......we want Oud. Make this process cost effective and sober. We are one huge oud family. Stop this cultural asaociation and scientific gibberish. To no intellectual they mean anything. God bless you all. Just chill out and enjoy Oud. Life is too short for complications. Its only when you treat 5 year old kids with Advanced Liver Cancer will you realise the value of time and affection ! I am a surgeon and I come here for brotherhood. Cheers.
Your prices are excellent. You have seen my video . The questions are for 550+ to 2500+ and above brother Faizal. That is quite expensive for 3mls.@Nikhil S I'll try to answer best your questions,
We are a bona fide limited liability company based in the UK, prior to this conducting business as sole trader. We have to pay corporation tax in the UK at 20%. Even though we use PayPal we still have to declare our business activities and pay an accountant.
Our pricing is based on costs- wood, gas, lighting, if we've purchased equipment, flights etc then we also try to recoup those.
Our bottles are specially polished and therefore we had to purchase a much larger amount, probably more than we'll ever use!
Also anyone who's purchased full bottles from us will know we have wooden gloss boxes which didn't come cheap.
We regularly pay for CITES documentation and costs associated here in the UK too.
Any further questions please ask or pm me
@Nikhil S I'll try to answer best your questions,
We are a bona fide limited liability company based in the UK, prior to this conducting business as sole trader. We have to pay corporation tax in the UK at 20%. Even though we use PayPal we still have to declare our business activities and pay an accountant.
Our pricing is based on costs- wood, gas, lighting, if we've purchased equipment, flights etc then we also try to recoup those.
Our bottles are specially polished and therefore we had to purchase a much larger amount, probably more than we'll ever use!
Also anyone who's purchased full bottles from us will know we have wooden gloss boxes which didn't come cheap.
We regularly pay for CITES documentation and costs associated here in the UK too.
Any further questions please ask or pm me
Your prices are excellent. You have seen my video . The questions are for 550+ to 2500+ and above brother Faizal. That is quite expensive for 3mls.
I like your stance towards Artisans. I appreciate that you have a vast experience. I have found your posts valuable and the passion for Oud speaks. However, we must understand that other on this platform may have more experience than you. And no one else s experience is lesser to you. If you limit your Oud sphere to ASO and Ensar and AA then such problems arise. For someone who has always bought Nagchampa sticks in a luxury Indian store in UK, it will be tough to believe that same thing costs like peanuts in smaller stores. Gotta move that ass.@Nikhil S and others
Here is how I see it. Artisanal oudh is a luxury. Price logic doesn't follow in luxury. Why do we feel entitled and feel we have the "right" to Demand from supplier and know exactly the costs behind a product and need the supplier to justify it? Don't get me wrong. Who doesn't wanna have more great oil for less pice. I wanna buy stuff for my children and grand children. But hey that's not how the world operates.
Also pls pls pls share $150-25 oils that perform same as $900-1500+++ seriously I would owe you the world and make it up to you.
In my dozens of blind trials amongst now closer to over 100 oils I cannot really agree with you. Sure sometimes I prefer a $350 oils over $800 one but there is no denying the complexity and projection of the higher priced oil. E.g IO sri pada wins it over adhii for me. Overal that is. The opening of adhII is genius. And then EO SS to my nose trumps not only both of these but any other SL gyrinops oil I had. And no this is not because I spent top dollars on it and now feel I have to praise it. I spent top dollars on adhii too. Spent even higher on EO borneo 50k and here to tell u that for me this oil's dry down is no Bueno.
@Faizal_p went wayyyyy out of his way to share above. I wouldn't have. Here is the oil here is the price. Take it or leave it. Wait for a sale. Or maybe never goes on sale. Free market decides.
Now pls let's stop asking our fellow artisans to give us free be and expect gifts from them in each shipment. I know of no other industry at least in North America that does this. We shouldn't take their generosity and kindness as our god given right. Even if no free lunch and we are somehow paying for these samples.
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3. Zak s oils start at 90. Have you heard of Tajul Bakshi. Try his oils and compare your best Indian luxury oils. Yes at times their 150 oils are exactly like 790 oils or maybe even better. Kalakassi 120 years see the retail price and order No.1/No.2 from Tajul sir.
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Yes dear Peter. Your last line makes your experience with such oils evident. His No.1 and No.2 are stunning. Presently running batches. Very close to commercial luxury oils of Gulf at atrocioua prices. Been there done that. All these expensive Organic Oils too are same or inferior.Dear Nikhil, you know exactly what you talking about here, i only wish some of the people who have some of the latest barn with out barn hype oils to try some of the Tajul direct work and compare.
Yes dear Peter. Your last line makes your experience with such oils evident. His No.1 and No.2 are stunning. Presently running batches. Very close to commercial luxury oils of Gulf at atrocioua prices. Been there done that. All these expensive Organic Oils too are same or inferior.
i have 5 of tajul work but are all above 20. i can only imagine about his number 1 and 2 works.Yes dear Peter. Your last line makes your experience with such oils evident. His No.1 and No.2 are stunning. Presently running batches. Very close to commercial luxury oils of Gulf at atrocioua prices. Been there done that. All these expensive Organic Oils too are same or inferior.
his site has not been updated for many years nowWhere are these No. 1&2? I can’t see them on the website:
http://www.assamaromas.com/agarwood-oils.html
Just mail him brother. Or talk with him. I particularly love No.2. I dont really know if it will still be available.i have 5 of tajul work but are all above 20. i can only imagine about his number 1 and 2 works.
So should I contact him directly? Does he offer sampler pack to purchase in your knowledge?his site has not been updated for many years now
Yes you can brother through the mail. He is a bulk dealer. He might offer you a tola if he still has that left. I doubt it. I have friends off these forums who would pick up tolas if they get a hint lol. It is a very good oil imo. Both No.1 and No.2.So should I contact him directly? Does he offer sampler pack to purchase in your knowledge?
ThanksYes you can brother through the mail. He is a bulk dealer. He might offer you a tola if he still has that left. I doubt it. I have friends off these forums who would pick up tolas if they get a hint lol. It is a very good oil imo. Both No.1 and No.2.