My Year 2 In Oud: A Detailed Story

Discussion in 'General' started by Rasoul Salehi, Sep 11, 2018.

  1. Rasoul Salehi

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    Dear all,

    You can read a detailed story of how i got into artisan oud (rebirth) and how my first 6-8 months played out, rituals, why's, how's, etc. here:
    https://gaharu.com/index.php?threads/a-recap-of-my-journey-in-oud-first-6-months.592/


    Much has changed since. most of it I had anticipated, as I have had similar growth trajectory when i picked up coffee, tea, wine, spirits, cheese, tomato and apples as a serious study... But like always, some of the changes in my preferences came as a surprise. Ditto, some of my beloved oud origins have now found themselves way back in the cupboard and oils that I was indifferent to are now creeping closer and closer to the front row.

    Sri Lanka as a whole is out. when I still go for it, but rarely is either a minimal, green, blue, salty oceanic one like ceylon royale or surirankah senkoh, or a rich, incense-heavy, major drydown oil like ORSL and the context is often daytime activity or intense exercise. honorable mention to sri pada.

    High toned terpy ouds are less appealing. think for the most part fresh distillations and for the most part cambodi oils. oils like EO pursat, kampot and pretty much any of AA cambodis. Again i dont fully refrain from them, but they are less worn and frequency and appreciation is down. when i do wear them is for physical exercise.

    maroke remains a scent i enjoy studying but not wearing. i don't find hedonistic joys in it, only great mental pleasure from how different filaria wood is. when maroke goes too wet and the petrified, diesel, crude oil note goes up in strength, i immediately run way ;)

    gyrinops from New Guinea is very special.

    I find myself gravitating to quieter oils. oils that have their heart and base notes yanked up to the opening. oils that are well aged. oils that were distilled to not wow right off the bat, but rather tickle and gently pull one in. Oils that have that suer vaporous quality, varnishy, estery, high toned note like wallas are not all that exciting anymore. Malinau remains an exception ditto some other borneo oils like midori, kinamantan...

    i am really valuing proper curing and long aging of oils before release. as a general rule of thumb that is. there are always exceptions. i paid too much attention and thought too much of disttilation setup early on. i now realize the equally important steps after when it comes to curing and aging.

    Hindi is IN, but a sub category of it. oils that dont have the cheese, fecal or that fermented sour twang. think bahadur, hindustan 1, shah jahan, most bhutans.

    basically, scent of Hay and countryside drive, open meadows with 4 legged friends grazing away is great, fermented, cheesy and fecal notes not.

    Brunei microcarpa was once my most revered spot. not so much anymore. it lacks any sweetness and overall in the humid, cold, rainy vancouver, it further makes my bones feel the chill. in the summer months though i do crave it here and there.

    Vietnam remains king. my deserted island region. something very special.

    malinau is the holly grail in borneo. royal malinau is easily in my all time top 5 and some days top 3 oils ever. Assam, real Assam, is god like and so different (imho superior) to all other hindi. Bhutan seen thru ensar oud lense is mystical. laos pusong thru taha's lense is ecstatic. mokokchung was a super awesome discovery via hindustan 1.

    sultan oils by ensar are nuts. they are a unique beast and are exhilarating. they are soul stirring. mustapha, suleyman, ahmet. wow wow wow.

    gen 4 is preferred over gen 3 when it comes to agar aura and generally speaking. gen 3s feel isolated and worked to be minimal. they have their place and i certainly do love them, but when the same quality comes with more of the wood character itself, it becomes even more complete.

    Muana note is lovely and highly undervalued, misunderstood or otherwise not experienced. the calm and serinity it projects is absolutely lovely. aside from the many bhutan offerings from EO, the royal imphal and ayoub also carry this note. haven't picked up this note, subtle or obvious, in any other distiller's offering. wonder why? how? granted i obviously haven't tried everything.

    overall, my oil infatuation and consumption is down, incense and heating agarwood is up.

    The joys (from ritual, to the actual scent, to that gentle heat from the burner warming one's hands and face) of scent of the wood is beyond words. like the best of the oils, a great old heartwood piece can be shaved and even 1 gram can last years. i can easily get 50-60+ sessions from a single gram of a wood like ensar's maluku 1996, KZ brunei heartwood, nha trang, hainan skins, HK skins, IO sulaweisi, shah jahan chips...

    as for incense, ill do a separate post at some point, but to generalize the sticks from WSG out of China is the holly grail. far more what i in my head associate with japanese aesthetic than almost all the japanese incense houses themselves! From their hainan, to 9 life times, as is, and bayun. holly molly. WSG rocks. KZ sticks are all beautiful but only a few truly reach the heights of WSG for me. ditto the kyara based sticks from likes of seijudo, gyokoshudo, baeido, ...



    wishlist for 2019 and beyond...
    Hoping for quieter mature Chinese like FHI, and more hindis like Assam 3000, hindustan 1, shah jahan and likes.

    hoping to see a philipina distillation oil from other distillers than taha

    hoping to see a bhutan and muana rich distillation from other distillers than ensar

    hoping to discover old oils like sultani 1990, TWR, oud ahmad, lushai hills...


    peace to all.
     
  2. powdernose

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    :) How does one go about that?

    Got a link to a supplier?
     
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  3. Rasoul Salehi

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    these guys (WSG) dont have a website. they have their flagship store in beijing. i got introduced to them via kyara zen who briefly was offering some of their stuff at cost +. i have since procured more thru a friend who was in beijing. maybe an email to KZ to see if he can point you in a better direction?

    as for apple and tomato, easy. befriend specialty farmers working with heirloom crops and also attend apple and tomato festivals. we have more than a few of them here in BC. tremendously educational, fun and satisfying. the variety of aromas and flavours in both fruits is mind-boggling. esp when the growers help categorize the crops into more manageable sub groups, the nuances become easier to pick up and understand.
     
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  4. powdernose

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    I'm not into incense that much to go on a big hunt. But thanks for the info, maybe WSG sticks and I will meet sometime down the road. :)

    There are no such festivals where I live :p
    I do have a specialty/hobbyist farmer who I know quite well though, I might pick his brain.
     
  5. Rasoul Salehi

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    all the more reasons to visit vancouver. i have a feeling ill turn you into a big incense stick guy. and we can feast on all the heirloom crops and delicious produce forward good eats :)
     
  6. powdernose

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    How about we just drink wine and swipe oud? :p

    But sure, one must surrender to the host ;)
     
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  7. Rasoul Salehi

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    totally game! the inceses that really speak to me -wsg- are really just the scent of the wood. no fillers, other spices, or otherwise anythign but agarwood and makkoh. trying to find hainan heartwood, hk heartwood, sugary formations, etc. is hard and very pricy. super thin 0.2mm sticks allow it to be more economical and end up lifting the aromas to a height that gentle heating doesnt.
     
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  8. Sproaty

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    @Rasoul Salehi - enjoyable readup and to compare to last year's experiences. I too feel like I'm constantly changing and thus want to keep my collection for a while and not sell anything in case my changes flip to appreciate more the things I may take for granted now, your post has helped to realise this, so thank you. I hope your 2019 brings you your wishes :)
     
  9. Rasoul Salehi

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    Happy to see my intention came across and is of service to you.
     
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  10. Arsalan

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    Thanks for sharing your journey @Rasoul Salehi! Very informative, and a great guide...
    You mention top 5 / 3...i know these will always be changing with time, but what are your top 5 at this point in your journey...?
    Let me guess...Green Papua is in there :Whistling:
     
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  11. Rasoul Salehi

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    @Arsalan as great as GP is, it doesnt make it in top 5.
    kyara ltd
    nha trang ltd
    purple kinam
    royal malinau
    are firmly in top 4
    5th spot is between shah jahan, hindustan 1, kenmei, sultan ahmet, oud ahmad, sultan suleyman, chugoku senkoh, port moresbey...
     
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  12. Arsalan

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    Nice! Now these are all up there in $$$...and some are hard to find / replace...
    I’m sure you swipe fairly frequently...I’m curious...are these also the top 5 most used day to day...?

    I guess what i’m wondering is what are your top 5 under $500..lol...
     
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  13. Rasoul Salehi

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    I wear minuscule amounts. To study not o project.

    Lower priced top oils would be:
    Green Papua
    Kenmei
    Abdus selam
    Nirvata muana/muana royale
    5th spot changes between
    Kanzen
    Orsl
    Ceen
    Bahadur
    Naga3k

    I don’t own archinam but would comfortably put it in here.
     
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  14. Rai Munir

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    :Roflmao:

    Kidney
    Eye
    Liver

    I would have offered them, if I had firmly believed that nice Oud has ended.
     
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  15. Arsalan

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    Thanks @Rasoul Salehi !
    Much appreciated!
    I am sure you are aware that your opinions are highly regarded...
    I’ve gotten in the habit of 2 or 3 generous swipes...:Roflmao: more than projection, it’s nice spending days in a oud scent bubble....:cool:
     
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  16. Rasoul Salehi

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    Very kind sentiment. I have been fortunate to have an analytical mind, trained nose and the means to try a wack of oils. Is my responsibility to share what registers for me with the community. Pay it forward.

    Now get on that plane and get your ass over to vancouver. You will have a great time, date I say time of your life.
     
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  17. Arsalan

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    @Rasoul Salehi Been wanting to visit Vancouver, been 10 years this year since I left 1155 Haro St...:Roflmao:
    Might take you up on it!
    Thanks!
     
  18. Rasoul Salehi

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    @Arsalan
    I know that building. A good friend of mine amir Bahman used to live there and during my pizza delivery days there was a guy who most most generous topper living there too.

    See you soon I am sure.
     

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