Burn Of The Day/night

Discussion in 'Scent of the Day/Night' started by jalil, Sep 15, 2016.

  1. Rasoul Salehi

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    recent KZ incense purchase impressions:

    Mon-Koh
    spectacular. the very essence of agarwood. little smoke. can be brought virtually right up to the nose without any acrid notes or burn. i sense some gyrinops/papuan quality at play. lets just say Indonesia profile. i wasn't able to verify this, so its just my educated hunch.

    haru-ro dew of spring
    need more time with this. nothing really jumping at me, other than the fact that this incense is less about aloes or sandal and more about other extracts, spices, etc. it didnt leave a great or bad first impression. kinda neutral. more on this later.

    sultans shadow
    this is a wow incense. rich aloes. salty/sweet/powdery ambergris. hint of animal (from must and ambergris i guess) underneath floral and other sweet/spicy resinous notes. a whole perfume in smoke form. wow. special stuff indeed.

    ambergris
    a blend of aloes, ambergris and misk. all 3 of these are also part of sultans shadow. but in contrast, the ambergris incense from KZ is much more oceanic, sea spray, touch animal (was expecting more funk and animale qualities). sweet but more along the lines of making or slightly burning caramel and molasses. a great scent from a far as well as relative close distance. belly height. no closer.

    clear mind
    10% baltic ambergris and as per KZ the most bitter scent he has made to date.
    well, bitter it is. almost like burning wires. is harsh and over the top close by, but the lingering scent is beguiling and addictive. i see similarities with myu-jyo but more so the gandasara. to my nose the note that jumps out clearly adn dominantly is that of fenugreek seeds. but i have verified this with KZ and there is NONE of it actually used. so it must either be a combo of other notes that makes me think fenugreek or shared compound in it with another. sotolon is the main curry leaf-esque compound that makes fenugreek, well fenugreek.
     
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  2. alcolado glacial

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    loved reading your reviews, mon koh incense sure sounds interesting, the best of both worlds, convenience of a stick and the quality of a mon- koh session
     
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  3. Rasoul Salehi

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    precisely that. KZ set a goal and has totally hit it right in the bulls eye
     
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  4. Rasoul Salehi

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    748C2CB5-804C-43EC-BEBA-3E8FFBF8D4BA.jpeg 0545D222-5C5D-4930-A80F-2C22F3231A6D.jpeg Aquilaria cummingiana phillipines
    Left to right (square cut left and biggest single piece right)

    IO
    Al Hashimi
    KZ (very brittle and weathered. Like soil wood)
    Agar aura
     
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  5. Arsalan

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    @Rasoul Salehi So all of these are “sinking grade”? I’m still new, so please excuse my ignorance...
    Waiting on mine from Al Hashimi, looking forward to trying wood from a new region!

    Staying relevant to the thread: on the heater righter now, started with a couple tiny pieces of Bandarban wood (thanks to @Royalbengalouds), added a bit of Indian sandalwood powder and then a piece of Hojari frankincense...and it smells amazing! Not planned, just felt like experimenting...lol
     
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  6. Rasoul Salehi

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    Not sure if they are all sinking or not. I never bother trying. I have seen time and time again that sinking doesn’t necessarily mean better scent. It can be loosely generalized but not always true.
     
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  7. AZsmell

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    I have Filipino wood from Agar Aura and Al Hashimi. I haven't had a chancr to burn the Al Hashimi yet so can't compare them. I never knew IO and KZ sold this wood.
    This is a pic of the Al Hashimi wood I got.

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  8. AZsmell

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    My Agar Aura filipino piece

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  9. Rai Munir

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    Wow! This is the lethal combination I am addicted to. But the sequence is inverse. First Frankincense. It creates a flimsy layer on the charcoal and turns to be a sort of mica plate. Then Ceylon Sandal powder. Then Mysore granules. Then Oud. And the last one is Mysore Santal and Oud.

    Yes, Bandarban Oudwood is exquisitely spicy and less green. Hope you must have Ish's sinking grade Walla Patta. It exuds green pungent aroma, and if both Bandarban and Walla Patta chips are heated together, it will be a distinctive session.
     
  10. Arsalan

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    Good to know!!! Being new to oud and sandalwood I have always only heated one thing at a time. although had been experimenting with various frankincense, myrrh and other resins previously.
    So today was as an eye opener for me when it came together so nicely, and hearing this from someone with your experience is encouraging! Thank you!

    Seems like I missed out on Ish’s sinking Walla Patta, however did send me a sample recently with my purchase of the Pursat oil, have not tried it yet though. Also got some Cambodian Koh Kong wood that @Royalbengalouds currently has listed, smells excellent as well! (Still trying to expand my horizon with oud, and with more experience perhaps will be better able to describe and compare notes & nuances)
     
  11. Rasoul Salehi

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    Both other ones are either old purchase (kz) or private small offer (IO). I am sure if you email @Faizal_p if they have the wood will hook u up. Theirs is the one standing seperrately from the pack. Not in a bad or good way. In neutral way. Theirs has that cummingiana smell but also tons of white pepper and certain animal quality. Taha’s I find is the most floral, elegant and refined in the bunch. Kz is substantial but round. No edges and very perfumed. I like them all. Perhaps kz and Taha’s take slight edge
     
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  12. VPhong

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    I have been heating the oud chips from Al Hashimi (Philippines) for the past few days and have to say the aroma is simply beautiful and really clears the mind. A deep, dark resinous scent that is complemented with spices and an invigorating note of dark jungle green vibe. The chips are heavy with resin and wonderfully clean. Personally I really love this scent profile. For me it was also interesting to note that there is a lot of overlap between the Philippines profile and Borneo. I say this as I noticed a lot of similarities to another wonderful batch of oud chips by way of the Borneo chips from Hazoud. That said, the Borneo chips have a more prominent and refreshing green vibe that really shines and sparkles in the way that perhaps a relatively new harvest wood will do. Excellent experiences from both.
     
  13. Rasoul Salehi

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    For me they are closer to malay beccariana species. Iirc I think the two species are in fact pretty close to one another.

    Either way, yes, wonderful agarwood and quite different compare to hindi Vietnam walla ...
     
  14. riviera274

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    Got some chips from my friend in India and these are probably the sweetest Hindi chips I've tried so far.Scent last for days on my drapes 15288347485827367692567943560889.jpg
     
  15. Alkhadra

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    Interesting you thought that dear Rasoul, I can see many parallels in scent, but even more so the density of resination that occurs in both cumingiana as well as beccariana are quite similar. Even though we call it Aquilaria Cumingiana, it's doesn't exactly fit into the Aquilara genus.

    In the past it was identified as a third genus designated as "Gyrinopsis", then later it was identified as Aquilara, after Aquilara Hirta was discovered. Comparisons were made between the two species, and they found that the perianth tube of of Cumingiana and Hirta were very similar, and that fruit grew in a similar manner on both species. Further consolidation of the Cumingiana species under the Aquilara genus occurred when comparing the number of stamens with other species (Aquilaria usually has 10, Gyrinops only 5), and as Cumingiana has 10 stamens, it made sense it'd be Aquilara...Right? Wrong :Roflmao:..

    The mature fruit of Aquilaria is usually green, while mature fruit of Gyrinops is orange/yellow. As for Cumingiana, well.. the mature fruits are brown/orange in color, but fruit color isn't a key charachteristic in taxonomy. Even Aquilaria Filaria has 10 stamens with orange fruit.

    To further add to confusion, on a genetic level, Cumingiana is a lot more closely related to Gyrinops, based on both ITS sequences (Internal transcribed spacer) as wel as trnL-trnF sequences (chloroplast).

    So.. there's Aquilaria, Gyrinops, and there used to be a third Gyrinopsis genus, guess it was for good reason. :Roflmao::Roflmao:
     
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  16. Rasoul Salehi

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    Head spinning. Much like scent this amazing agarwood emits.
     
  17. Royalbengalouds

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    The incense holder looks as beautiful as the woods chips , is the holder made from stone ? Looks beautiful & ancient . SubanaAllah ☕️☕️☕️
     
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  18. riviera274

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    No,its made of wood,i think and was pretty cheap
     
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  19. Grega

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    As I write this I am taking a break from work (composing new songs and preparing lessons) to enjoy some rose oud ambergris bakhoor and uunsi bakhoor from Somalia. The first one especially makes the room smell gorgeous for weeks! My favorite type of Bakhoor. Ambery goodness!
    I burn it on charcoal but I wait until it becomes mostly ash before I put the incense on to avoid the burnt smell.
     
  20. Arsalan

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    Just arrived! With all the cumingiana & beccariana talk, looking forward to trying it out today...but even the bag smells good! Really like the sample vial/bottle too! Thanks @Alkhadra
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    Update: Wow!!! Glad i managed to get some of this! Beautiful scent, and was surprised at how much a very tiny piece at low heat can smell!!!
     
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