Blind Oud Test - Origins

Discussion in 'General' started by powdernose, Aug 23, 2018.

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  1. powdernose

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    There was a little discussion regarding blind testing oud in the 'oud news' thread (mostly my posts), but I thought I'd collate the relative posts in a separate thread in hope of giving the idea a fighting chance:

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  2. powdernose

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  3. F4R1d0uX

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    Nice job :Thumbsup:
     
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  4. powdernose

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  5. powdernose

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    What this project really needs is generosity, curiosity, and benefactors!

    So if you're interested, contact me.
     
  6. Rai Munir

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    Respected powdernose, I think all members will definitely be willing to join this project. At least once we have to materialize it. I have downloaded the sheet, and, in my opinion, it will do.

    I think the members are busy in Eid celebrations; otherwise, the thread would have received welcoming feedback.
     
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  7. Ouddict

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    @powdernose fantastic idea. Wish more members were like you. Do you think it might be an idea for me to make the list on software so people can add to it online?
     
  8. Rai Munir

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    'A Blind Oud Test' to 'See Better'!
     
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  9. Rai Munir

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    Well, the idea requires extreme confidentiality and impartiality. Second, I think it was discussed that samples are to be sent to some newbies with virgin noses and to some veterans. This is what I think is the backbone of the project.

    The question is 'How to materialize it?'.
    It is possible if Admin and Mods show consent to initiate the project. Members will definitely be ready, but vendors, hmmm, some will be ready, but majority will be reluctant.

    But we are here to initiate on our own for learning, and not to let down or step down some respectable vendor.
     
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  10. Louis Miller

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    This sounds very exciting, I do hope such a test might be possible. Perhaps there could be a participation fee to help offset sample costs? I know I'd be happy to pay for a chance to put my newbie nose to the test.
     
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    What kind of list?

    Confidentiality and impartiality are what we would strive for.

    A few materialisation ideas have already been mentioned. And I personally have more ideas.

    Vendor participation would be good. Like you say some would be willing,
    and only a few would need to be willing in truth.
    The second part is having a couple of private collectors that are willing to sacrifice a couple of ml of 'legends'.
    Such benefactors would be enough to kickstart this into motion

    It is an idea yes, but only as an offset I think.
     
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  12. powdernose

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    Ahh, the result sheet you mean?
    What would be the purpose of open editing though?
     
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  13. Ouddict

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  14. powdernose

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    If I'm understanding you, you mean to re-purpose the sheet to create an online review database, possibly an anonymous database?
    Sounds good to me.
     
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  15. Ouddict

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    Yes, exactly
     
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  16. powdernose

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    Bump.

    I'll further specify, so this is not just a vague concept.
    I'm hoping to find a couple of benefactors to kick start the project.
    Basically, I'd need each private collector to send 1-3 oils of varying grades (at least 1 obviously being high grade) at 5x0.1g to be able to conduct the blind test.
    I believe I need 1-2 benefactor commitments to be able to proceed further.

    So, PM me, and let me know if you'd be willing to donate (free) to this test.
    Or, if you'd be open to accepting an amount of cash in exchange for your offerings (preferably less than the actual value of the oil offerings).

    If you PM me with your interest, please do not list the identity or true value of the oils. I wish to remain as blind as possible to their identities and values for the time being.
    In the message I just need the commitment to donate/sell, the number of oils you can provide, and the amount of cash required to contribute, if required.

    Btw, at he moment, I see myself refereeing/coordinating the test.
    If anybody objects, please state so now.

    thanks
     
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  17. Rai Munir

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    Dear powdernose
    This 'Blind Test Theory' is the best I ever read here. Its functionality is evident. What I can contribute is a little money because I am not allowed to ship anything liquid abroad.

    What about taking up the project by the Forum managers, officially? If possible.
     
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  18. powdernose

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    Dear Rai,

    Thank you for the support and the offer. :handok:
    If and when this progresses, I will contact you.
    Likewise, I think things need to be in motion for official support to make any difference.


     
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  19. Rai Munir

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    Dear powdernose
    Since the day you floated blind test, I tried it at home and involved my friends.

    I am sure it is the only way to achieve some solid empirical findings. Moreover, I am sure that majority of distillers, vendors, vendor distillers and distiller vendors won't second it. And some members too. Or at least the result possibly be nullified. Even some will ask 'For what all this blind test?'. So, I suggested that if it is initiated officially by the Forum administrators, it can be a successful venture.
     
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  20. F4R1d0uX

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    Oh ? I'm in and I was even in before @powdernose 's yesterday post:Thumbsup:.
     
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