PersonelHigh

True Ouddict
@PEARL,


Please feel free to ask any questions, the more specific the more specific answers we can provide you.


Monotone: if the oil is monotone or has a persistent monotone a character, this is when you start assessing it for additives or that it could be cultivated. Cultivated oils have not the depth in complexity that matured wild oils have.
This is wonderful post, thank you. I am going to copy it and keep it for my notes. Question when you say monotone do you mean for example one note that sustains? I'm not sure if you are talking about movement the way oud might start off smelling like camphor and then turn to leather and then incense. Or do you mean the actual complexity of these stages?
 

Habz786

Resident Artisan & Ouddict Co-Founder
@PersonelHigh yes it is sad, from my understanding the nails and drilling happens very much so all over especially in Bangladesh/India. Chemicals more common now due to no passion for Oud and greed of humans. That wood is also one of the most dense and fragrant woods i have come across, a tiny silver will keep going on the heater, deffo no nails, 100% wild and from a big old tree. High quality wood is hard to come by now and if so very expensive. Not many have taken advantage of the value/quality ratio of the sinking Borneo wood and im glad because i know i will regret selling it! There is a physcological link that if it costs more and we spend more its better (blind test echoed this), in most cases maybe yes with Habzoud deffo NO :Geek:
 
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java vetiver ..smokey , leathery,hey type ..I like it's smokey smeel
 

Arsalan

True Ouddict
@PersonelHigh yes it is sad, from my understanding the nails and drilling happens very much so all over especially in Bangladesh/India. Chemicals more common now due to no passion for Oud and greed of humans. That wood is also one of the most dense and fragrant woods i have come across, a tiny silver will keep going on the heater, deffo no nails, 100% wild and from a big old tree. High quality wood is hard to come by now and if so very expensive. Not many have taken advantage of the value/quality ratio of the sinking Borneo wood and im glad because i know i will regret selling it! There is a physcological link that if it costs more and we spend more its better (blind test echoed this), in most cases maybe yes with Habzoud deffo NO :Geek:

The Borneo wood that i got from you truly is outstanding! Beautifully fragrant at room temperature..potent enough to fill a room with a fairly small piece. The Phillipines is a close second in terms of resin & density, but the Borneo smells better...to me at least... ;)
 

Al Shareef Oudh

Master Perfumer
This is wonderful post, thank you. I am going to copy it and keep it for my notes. Question when you say monotone do you mean for example one note that sustains? I'm not sure if you are talking about movement the way oud might start off smelling like camphor and then turn to leather and then incense. Or do you mean the actual complexity of these stages?

Monotone the way a single note sustains and does not evolve or change.

Natural oudh will change as you mentioned; it might start of smelling like camphor, then leather, then hay, then incense.
 

Grega

True Ouddict
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Why am I posting some Raja Sweets in this thread?

Well, I was pigging-out on these earlier, then it made me think.......

One main ingredient (milk), many different outcomes. The difference is how it was cooked in the pot.......

Made me think of Oud Distillation:Roflmao::Roflmao::Roflmao:
:D
These look delicious!
 

RisingPhoenix

Resident Artisan
View attachment 8158

Why am I posting some Raja Sweets in this thread?

Well, I was pigging-out on these earlier, then it made me think.......

One main ingredient (milk), many different outcomes. The difference is how it was cooked in the pot.......

Made me think of Oud Distillation:Roflmao::Roflmao::Roflmao:

Bingo! :)
 

Maz oud

Oud Beginner
Hi, can anyone help me with understanding the difference between steam distillation and water- steam distillation in oud oil extraction? Any leads on which lab level distillation apparatus will be best suited as such? How about short path distillation?
 

Bombay

True Ouddict
Hello everyone , have a question regarding oud distillation.. is the oil distilled from the wood chunks , wood shavings or the wood dust.. I read different words used so curious to know 1> is it same or different
2> does the quality and depth of oil change too depending on this as well ?
 

F4R1d0uX

Resident Artisan
Hello everyone , have a question regarding oud distillation.. is the oil distilled from the wood chunks , wood shavings or the wood dust.. I read different words used so curious to know 1> is it same or different
2> does the quality and depth of oil change too depending on this as well ?

There is a general rule but the more I'm getting experience the less it means something.

I will not enter too much details, but basically an oil made from an incense grade wood will contain also some oil in resinated pockets that will add depth if you manage to grab it.

I already got in hand some resinated sinking grade that hasn't powerful smell when burnt and woudnt give a good oil.

On the other side, you can fall on very oily shavings from cleaning wich aren't dark and will give a nice smelly oil with depth because the tree was ultra sick and old and the shavings are good.

It's difficult to anticipate the result especially with wild wood ...

Some will tell you, you can test the batch with burning some samples : you will never be sure of the whole batch unless you cut a small sliver from all the batch so I don't believe it that much ...
 

Bombay

True Ouddict
There is a general rule but the more I'm getting experience the less it means something.

I will not enter too much details, but basically an oil made from an incense grade wood will contain also some oil in resinated pockets that will add depth if you manage to grab it.

I already got in hand some resinated sinking grade that hasn't powerful smell when burnt and woudnt give a good oil.

On the other side, you can fall on very oily shavings from cleaning wich aren't dark and will give a nice smelly oil with depth because the tree was ultra sick and old and the shavings are good.

It's difficult to anticipate the result especially with wild wood ...

Some will tell you, you can test the batch with burning some samples : you will never be sure of the whole batch unless you cut a small sliver from all the batch so I don't believe it that much ...

I see, so as a customer when I read about the oils profile on the sellers web page or any blog should I take that info as a grain of salt ?
 
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